HomeMy WebLinkAbout2019-05-08 CHPC Minutes CALDWELL HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
Meeting of May 08, 2019 @ 6:30 P.M. APPROVED
Caldwell Public Library — Idaho Room
1010 Dearborn, Caldwell, Idaho
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I. Call to order. Chairperson King called the meeting to order at approxima - ' .. ' •. .
II. Roll Call
Members Present. Jacob King, Randy Lyons, and Megan Dixon.
Members Absent. Steve Maughan and Nicole Bradshaw.
Others Present. April Cabello, Planning Technician; Jarom Wagoner, Senior Planner.
Others Absent. Jerome Mapp, Interim Planning & Zoning Director; Rob Hopper, City
Council Liaison.
III. Approval of Minutes.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 27, 2019 AND CONTINUE THE
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR APRIL 24, 2019 UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
MOTION: Commissioner Lyons SECOND: Chainman King, MOTION PASSED.
IV. Certificate of Appropriateness Interviews.
Action Item: Case Number CA-19-04 a request by Mark Subia to rebuild and enlarge
the residential duplex that was destroyed by fire and has been demolished. The site is
located at 1214 Blaine.
April Cabello, Planning Technician, 621 Cleveland Blvd., Caldwell, ID presented the staff
report. Ms. Cabello stated for the record that there is a change to the staff report. In
further review of the City Code section 10-02-08 (4) A., Nonconforming Uses Deemed
Permitted, and in view of the fact that the assessor's office had the structure located at
1214 Blaine Street on record going back to the 1960 as being a duplex, staff confirmed
the duplex is deemed as a permitted use. The duplex may be rebuilt and enlarged,
however a duplex cannot become a triplex. Ms. Cabello further informed the commission
that they would only be hearing case CA-19-04 for design review, style and materials; it
would not be for a special use because the duplex is deemed permitted. The request is
to receive a Certificate of Appropriateness from the Historic Preservation Commission to
rebuild and enlarge a permitted duplex that was destroyed by fire on December 7, 2018
and had to be demolished.
Ms. Cabello further stated that the site exists in the Steunenberg Residential Historic
District and the applicant proposes to rebuild a "nonconforming use deemed permitted"
duplex that was destroyed by fire on December 7, 2018 and was demolished due to
safety reasons as stated in the letter issued by Brett Clark, CBO, City of Caldwell Building
Official, dated March 15, 2019. The structure had been severely damaged by fire and the
structure met several items under an Unsafe Structure definition per the Uniform Code
for the Abatement of Dangerous Buildings. Therefore, the structure was declared unsafe
and the City ordered immediate demolition of the structure. The site is currently zoned R-
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1 (Low Density Residential) but was rezoned on April 14, 2008 from R-2(Medium Density
Residential) to R-1 (Low Density Residential). Duplex is an allowed use in the R-2 zone
and became a "nonconforming use deemed permitted' in the Steunenberg Residential
Historic District. If any legally existing residential use, structure, or building, whether vacant
or occupied, and including mobile homes and manufactured homes as defined in section 10-
03-11 of this chapter, is located in any zoning district, in existence as of the effective date of
this section, said effective date being December 13, 1977, or subsequent amendments
thereto, or at the time of annexation or rezone, it shall not be considered to be a
nonconforming use, but rather shall be deemed a permitted use, until such time that said
legally existing residential use, structure, or building is replaced with another permitted or
approved special use.Any legally existing residential structure or building that has been thus
deemed permitted as set forth in subsection (4)A of this section shall have all the privileges
of a permitted residential structure or building and the structure or building may be enlarged,
replaced, altered, expanded, reconstructed and/or remodeled if a building permit has been
obtained from the building official. Any legally existing residential use that has been thus
deemed permitted as set forth in subsection (4)A of this section may continue as a permitted
use. However, said use may not be expanded to a use not permitted in the underlying zoning
district(i.e., duplex cannot become a triplex if not allowed as a permitted use in the underlying
zoning district).At such time that said existing permitted use, structure,or building as set forth
in subsection (4)A of this section is replaced with another permitted use or approved special
use or is vacant for more than three hundred sixty-five (365) consecutive days, said existing
permitted use, structure, or building shall become null and void and shall not be reestablished
thereafter(Ord. 2739, 6-16-2008). The applicant has indicated that he intends to replicate
the original building and wants to enlarge the size of the building, to accommodate
present-day standards and feasibilities. The applicant further stated that he feels the
home will be very similar in style and size to other historical houses in the immediate
area. As stated on the application forms, the square footage of the original home was: 1St
unit 1,436 and the 2nd unit 718; the proposed square footage of the new home is: 1St unit
2,545 and the 2nd unit 740. The applicant also wishes to build a 576 square foot detached
garage. The Caldwell Historic Preservation Commission is to hear and vote on the design
and materials used in the rebuild and on the enlargement of the original footprint of the
structure built in 1910, prior to 1966 converted to a duplex to the best of staffs knowledge
from the assessor's office.
Ms. Cabello stated that staff is in support of the application, and recommends approval
of the Certificate of Appropriateness to rebuild and enlarge a duplex "nonconforming use
deemed permitted'.
The commission asked questions of staff regarding size restrictions.
Staff responded that current setback requirements would be the only restriction and that
the plans and footprint meet that requirement.
The commission asked questions of staff regarding rebuilding due to fire and if it was a
citywide code.
Staff responded yes that code section 10-02-08 (2) B. 1, E. 1 regarding fire is citywide.
The commission confirmed with staff that the findings on the staff report would be updated
with the correct finding.
Staff confirmed.
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Mark Subia, applicant, 2315 Parker Ave, Caldwell ID, gave his testimony and stated that
the house will be the same but 10ft wider and 7ft deeper. It is a big prominent lot and that
back in 1908,they did not have vehicles, and not many clothes so no closets,the stairwell
could not accept a box spring mattress; the changes will include substantially sized
bedrooms with closets, bigger bathrooms and will make the structure a more prominent
building with a detached garage. Mr. Subia stated that they have had positive feedback
from the neighbors about the garage.
Commissioner Dixon thanked the applicant for a thorough application.
Chairman King asked the applicant if they have done work on the home before that
required them to go before the commission.
Mr. Subia responded not directly but he has worked for people in the North End of Boise
that did go through the historic preservation process in Boise.
Chairman King asked the applicant if they were familiar how the commission would look
at the applications, review the design, materials, form, mass, and how it would relate to
the district.
Mr. Subia responded yes.
Chairman King stated from a mass and form standpoint, the form and materials are spot
on, but is concerned about the size of the structure and discussed the surrounding area.
The commission discussed the surrounding area and sizes of lots and homes.
Commissioner Dixon stated that this project as new construction is a benefit; the
precedent of a house that is slightly enlarged and in keeping with the original design and
surrounding houses in the district is a good precedent to set.
Commissioner Lyons asked the applicant about the lap siding.
Mr. Subia responded that he submitted a picture of hardie lap board siding and will go
with 6 inch lap, it is many little pieces. Mr. Subia also informed the commission that he
would not be putting the decorative siding back on the gables but will be putting back the
original style lap siding. The decorative siding is something that he installed 20 years ago
when he remodeled.
Commissioner Lyons confirmed that lap siding would be installed from top to bottom.
Mr. Subia confirmed and informed the commission that 20 years ago they modified the
porch when he remodeled and he would be putting it back to the original, which was
spindles from the top to the deck floor.
Mr. Subia stated that the windows would be double hung wood with 3 or 4 over one grill
pattern, in the front, the side and rear will go to a single hung vinyl windows but confirmed
the windows you see from Blaine will be wood windows.
Chairman King responded that the commission looks at windows visible from the Right
of Way and if the fish scale or scallop siding was not original then it is a good idea to go
back to how it was. The commission will have to take the word of the applicant on that
and the width of lap siding as it was.
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Mr. Subia asked the commission what the lap should be. Mr. Subia stated that 6" is
popular now and has installed 5" lap on homes.
Chairman King responded that it looked like 6" lap siding.
Commissioner Lyons asked the applicant to confirm the window material.
Mr. Subia responded that the material would be wood windows; aluminum clad on the
outside and wood on the inside with an enlarged seal, 21/2" or 3" inside window jamb and
1" outside window jamb so it will look like the windows are inset like the old double hung
windows.
Chairman King asked if there would be exposed aluminum on the outside of the window.
Mr. Subia responded yes.
Chairman King responded that is a concern for the commission.
Mr. Subia responded that you would not be able to tell that it was aluminum, it is aluminum
clad wood. They look nice and for all practical purposes, they look like wood from the
street and are an upgrade from the standard vinyl window. You do not want an old wood
window that is not energy efficient in a new house.
Commissioner Dixon asked the applicant if the aluminum clad is to protect it from the
weather.
Mr. Subia responded yes.
Commissioner Lyons asked the applicant to confirm they are going to install 4 over 1
windows.
Mr. Subia responded that the 3-foot windows will be 3 over 1 and 4 foot windows will be
4 over 1.
Commissioner Lyon asked the applicant to confirm if the lap siding will go around the
house, not just the front and the garage.
Mr. Subia confirmed.
Chairman King asked the applicant to confirm the accent cedar shingle siding below the
railing would not be replaced.
Mr. Subia responded no, the spindles would go almost to the top of the deck.
Commissioner Lyons asked the applicant to elaborate on the door.
Mr. Subia responded the door would be fiberglass that looks like wood with a window on
the top.
Commissioner Lyons wondered if there was a new dormer.
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Mr. Subia responded yes, there was one dormer on one side and he is adding a dormer
on the opposite side. It will mirror the one on the opposite side.
Chairman King stated that the dormers are visible from the street.
Mr. Subia stated that the plans show the dormers hitting the ridge but they will not hit the
ridge, they will hit about the 10-foot elevation and that the drawing makes them look
intrusive and they are not. The dormers should be 20 feet back from the front of the
house.
Commission Dixon reviewed the site plan to see to proposed location of the dormers.
Chairman King stated that the applicant needs to submit a revised site plan with the
changes. The existing height to building eave is 11 foot 6 and will not change, but the
change to the existing height to the building peak however is a 3 foot difference, 23 % to
261/2 foot, so the placement of the dormers and how high up the roof they go is a concern.
Mr. Subia stated that if you are standing on Blaine Street he does not think you will be
able to see the dormers.
Chairman King wondered if you stood on the sidewalk, would you only see the front gable
and porch but not the dormers.
Chairman King acknowledged the siding would be high quality siding, if the size of it is
the same as the original that is okay, the spindles and columns will be about the same.
Mr. Subia stated the columns might be a little bit bigger in circumference, 8 or 9-inch
diameter, and will be a ceramic material. It will look like wood but will be architecturally
correct with the column base and cap, back to the original.
Chairman King expressed that the changes will be a distinct difference, there is not too
much continuity. The way the house looks in the recent pictures has breaks in the
shingles to the lap wood to the scales, a break in the look of the features on the front of
the house and the piers. If all of it is now horizontally smooth, the porch columns and the
spindles will be the biggest break in how it looks from an architectural standpoint. The
look and feel of it is important.
Chairman King asked the commission if there were any questions regarding the materials
or architectural features of this proposed application.
Chairman King asked the applicant if the new rafter tails would be exposed as the old
ones were.
Mr. Subia responded that the rafter tails would not be exposed, it will have soffit and
fascia.
Commissioner Lyons asked the applicant if the ceiling on the porch would be consistent
with the original material, 1 by 2's.
Mr. Subia responded it would be bead board; hemlock 1 x 2 bead board is cost prohibitive
and the proposed material is close to the original.
Commissioner Lyons expressed his concern for warping.
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Mr. Subia responded if put on 16-inch centers it would stay rigid.
Commissioner Lyons wondered about headers on the windows.
Mr. Subia stated that he would look around at houses in the district that are similar
architecture, pick out one he likes and copy it.
Chairman King explained to Mr. Subia that is what they want to address right now, the
survey done on the home states it is a Victorian Eclectic/Classical Victorian with
Bungalow transition. Specifically there was an architectural survey performed on this
house which showed breaks in the façade, breaks along the windows, the headers
extending and scalloped siding, which when it was added played to the architectural look
of the house.
Mr. Subia responded that when they remodeled they tried to make it look like an old
Victorian house instead of an old farmhouse. Now wants to go back to the old 1908
farmhouse style that is was. Simple straight lines.
Mr. Subia stated that he would not be opposed to putting a trim piece on the top of the
header.
The commission discussed the header over the door and the breaks in the lines.
Mr. Subia stated that he had installed the porthole; it was not original to the house and
had a picture from 1997 to prove it.
Chairman King stated that the picture taken in 1997 was taken prior to the architectural
survey done by State Historic Preservation office in 1999, and the home was considered
to be contributing with the alterations. The survey states altered but evokes historic
association and feeling so it was met with approval.
The commission agreed that they would like to draw up a list of requested revisions and
clarifications in order to continue discussion.
Chairman King asked the applicant how long it would take the architect to have a new
drawing showing correct measurements,total square footage for both duplexes, dormers,
spindles, siding, porthole, windows, door style, front steps, and roofing material.
Mr. Subia responded the architect could have a revised plan in a couple of days.
James & Gail Madden, 1305 Cleveland Blvd, signed in favor of the application; Mr
Madden asked to see the blueprints and stated he thinks you would see the dormers from
the street.
Mark & Paula Packer, 1215 Blaine St, signed in favor of the application but did not wish
to speak.
Motion to continue Case Number CA-19-01 until May 22, 2019 at 6:30pm, applicant
to submit further information for review.
MOTION: Commissioner Dixon SECOND: Chairman King MOTION PASSED WITH A
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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V. Audience Participation. None.
VI. Actions Since Last Meeting. None.
VII. Old Business.
Action Item: Continued discussion; Steunenberg Facebook page. Continued to the
next meeting.
Action Item: Continued discussion; News Letter. Continued to the next meeting.
Action Item: Continued discussion; 2019 Projects. Continued to the next meeting.
VIII. New Business. None.
IX. Commission & Staff Reports. None.
X. Meeting adjourned at approximately 8:34 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by April Cabello,
MINUTES APPROVED AND SIGNED BELOW BY CHAIRPERSON KING ON THE DATE
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CALDWELL HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
APPROVED
Meeting of April 24, 2019 @ 6:30 P.M.
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I. Call to order. Chairperson King called the meeting to order at approximately 6:34 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Members Present. Jacob King, Randy Lyons, Steve Maughan and Nicole Bradshaw.
Members Absent. Megan Dixon.
Others Present. April Cabello, Planning Technician; Rob Hopper, City Council Liaison.
Others Absent. Jerome Mapp, Interim Planning & Zoning Director; Jarom Wagoner,
Senior Planner
III. Approval of Minutes. March 27, 2019 - Continued to May 8, 2019 meeting.
IV. Certificate of Appropriateness Interviews. None.
V. Audience Participation. None.
VI. Actions Since Last Meeting.
• Discussion Item: CA-19-02. 601 S. 13th. Commission Level C of A issued for
the approval to replace the existing sliding wood garage doors with an Overhead
Thermacore Collection, model # 199 V5 in white with two handles in the middle
that makes it look like a sliding door without windows.
• Discussion Item: CA-19-05. 1922 Dearborn. Staff Level C of A issued for the
approval to replace the home's existing gutters and downspout, repair existing
fascia.
• Discussion Item: CA-19-06. 1922 Dearborn. Chairman Level C of A issued for
the approval to install gutters, downspout on the garage and replace the garage
mandoor.
VII. Old Business.
• Action Item: Continued discussion; Steunenberg Facebook page;
Commissioner Maughan stated that he will work on the FB page along with C of
I students when he returns from his work trip around August 26, 2019.
• Action Item: Continued discussion; News Letter;
Chairman King stated that he found the old newsletter and made a couple of
edits, and forwarded the newsletter to the commission via email. Chairman King
asked the commission if they had time to submit thoughts and changes to April
C. The commission responded that they had not. Chairman King suggested
adding a photo of rehabilitation projects in the district to showcase, code
enforcement contacts, and a link to the Certificate of Appropriateness
application and code. April C. reported that she receives from the addressing
department quarterly a spreadsheet of the property owners in the district and
compares the previous list to the new list to determine the mailing list. Chairman
King stated that he would help with comparing the two lists. Commissioner
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Maughan suggested adding the City Council liaison to the pamphlet. Chairman
King asked staff for a date of the next mailing. April C. responded that she would
find out and get back to him with a date.
• Action Item: Continued discussion 2019 Projects.
Chairman King stated the Steunenberg FB page and News Letter would be
priority. April C. shared that training should be a project twice a year, hopefully
with Legal and SHPO. Commissioner Bradshaw suggested a public walking tour
of the district. Councilman Hopper suggested the Motel sign as a possible
project.
VIII. New Business.
• Action Item: None.
IX. Commission & Staff Reports.
Commission Reports:
• Commissioner Maughan stated for the record that everything in the district to the
commission's knowledge is appropriate.
• Commissioner Bradshaw asked about the possibility of adding members to the
commission and the process. April C. stated this would need to be posted on the
agenda as an action item under new business.
Staff Report:
• Discussion Item: Historic Preservation Camp in Boise.
April C. stated that she would be attending this training on Saturday, May 4,
2019 and will try to get the PowerPoint presentation from the training.
• Discussion Item: Legal Counsel.
April C. asked the commission what date they would like for training, June 12th
or June 26th. The commission asked for June 12th or July 10tH
• Discussion Item: Meeting dates and times.
April C. asked the commission if they would like to move the date and time of
their meetings to avoid not making quorum. The commission stated that the
regular scheduled meeting calendar is okay as it is.
X. Meeting adjourned at approximately 7:23 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by April Cabello,
MINUTES APPROVED AND SIGNED BELOW BY CHAIRPERSON KING ON THE DATE
NOTED BELOW.
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