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04-03-2008 AIRPORT MINUTES e ; MINUTES Caldwell Industrial Airport Commission 4601-4 Aviation Way • Caldwell, ID 83605 q�,�, Date: April3r 20pg �� 2 -� � Time: 12:00 —1:0 \�� Location: (Caldwell Industrial Airport O Office of Curt Hawkins) Commission Members Present: Bob McGee, Phil Fouts, Jeff Miller, Rob Oates, Mike Reed, Myron Tucker, Airport Manager — Curt Hawkins, Kathy Schara (Airport Manager's Secretary) Commission Members Absent: Hoyt Fleming, Marty Koch, Mack Kreizenbeck, Wayne Thiel Guests: Jim Berg (Armstrong Consultants Inc.), Kevin Bissell & Chuck Sundby (Toothman- Orton), Jim & Anita Shore, DuWaine Emmons (Heery Int'1.), Thomas Lemenager (Kimle - � Horn) y Chairman Bob McGee called the meeting to order at 12:00 PM. 1 • Minutes of March 2008 Airport Commission Meeting Motion was made and seconded to accept the March 2008 Minutes. Motion passed. 2 • Tower at Pickle Butte Proposal Curt Hawkins brought the issue of a proposed Radio Tower at Pickle Butte before the Caldwell Airport Commission for discussion and to determine whether they would choose to submit a resolution of opposition to same. He stated that the Nampa Airport has submitted a resolution to the County Commissioners in opposition to this tower as a • detriment to aviation. Bob McGee stated that the tower would be in a training area. Mike Reed suggested the Airport Commission voice concern against such a tower. Rob Oates stated that this tower does not differ from any other tower around, and if someone is otherwise following the rules, the Airport Commission should not stand in the way. The question was posed as to the purpose of the tower, however, at this point that purpose seems to be unclear. Jeff Miller stated that it depends on whether this would be a freestanding tower, or would have guide wires. He stated that he would prefer to know what the tower's function would be. Phil Fouts suggested requesting that it be adequately marked with beacons, etc. Curt Hawkins stated that the tower would be 745' above ground level, but that the elevation at ground level is unknown. Jeff Miller does not think the Airport Commission needs to be getting into legislating what the free market can do. Mike Reed mentioned that the tower is, however, still in a training area. He stated that he would like to see what its purpose would be. Rob Oates stated that as long as the tower complies with FAA rules, it should be considered just another obstacle on the charts. Jeff Miller stated that if the Airport Commission were going to make a fight, it should be a winnable fight. Bob McGee stated that it must be well charted and marked. Rob Oates moved that the Airport Commission take no action at this time, and that the issue be tabled until the next meeting, when more • information could be obtained as to the tower's purpose. Motion was seconded, and passed. (Note: After the meeting, Curt determined the tower to be an FM radio tower. �� k�;,t �,;i �'�ii��t��°� � �i��=�? � �;�. i�� a I ��i°> � ` 1 3 • Deposit Fee for Prospective Builders at Airport Curt Hawkins stated that the Commission Members previously discussed requiring a deposit fee from lessees at the time they outline the property in blue, indicating they wish to lease in the future property that is not now lease-able. He stated that there was a question • regarding whether this would be the first year's ground rent, and whether they would be charged rent for the ground each year following. Curt discussed the matter with Larry Osgood, who does not think it is a good idea to charge rent every year, when it is unknown as to when the road will actually go through and the land will become buildable. Curt suggested a one-time deposit that is non-refundable. The question was asked whether, if for some reason the city could not perform, this should be non-refundable. Curt suggested that they could include a sunset clause. Rob Oates stated that in doing so, in essence, this sets up a contract, and with such a clause, if city could not perform, the fee would be refunded. Jeff Miller stated that the "rent" should start the day the lease is signed. Curt Hawkins stated that the way it is done now, when the ground is lease-able, the person first in line has 72 hours to come in with a check. A motion was made by Rob Oates, that prior to land being available for lease, but desired by builders, and the builders have expressed their desire to build by outlining the property they wish to lease in blue, therefore, in order to keep the number one position of those in blue, the number one position holder is required to make a deposit in the amount of the first year's lease payment. This lease payment shall be deducted from the amount of the lease payment due at the time of lease signing. Said lease payment is non-refundable for the first thirty-six months after the deposit is made. After thirty-six months has expired, and if due to no fault of the prospective Lessee, the land is still unavailable for Lease, the deposit can be refunded by the prospective Lessee making written request to the Airport Manager. Motion was seconded and passed. • Phil Fouts asked if this . would have to ultimately be a recommendation to the City Council. The answer given was yes. 4 • New Terminal Design Bob McGee asked Kevin Bissell, of Toothman-prton, if there was any new information regarding the new terminal building. Kevin's response was that there was not. Bob McGee stated that he and Curt Hawkins would be unable to be at the upcoming City Council Workshop on Funding and Design for the New Terminal, as they would be at the IAMA Conference in Sun Valley. Bob requested that Phil Fouts, as Commission Vice Chairman, be at the workshop on May Sth, in lieu of Curt and himself, and also recommended that any other Airport Commissioners, that were able, be in attendance. Rob Oates stated that he expects to be at the workshop, as a City Council Member. He said he plans to share his thoughts regarding the new terminal as he has stated before - to have all three phases done at once, if the city can find the money to do so, as that is the most economically beneficial plan. Jeff Miller asked if a tower were to ever be built at the Caldwell Airport, who would fund the staffing of the tower? Chuck Sundby, of Toothman-Orton, stated that in all probability the City would have to fund it at least partially. He stated that it is very unlikely to have the � FAA fully fund the personnel for a tower. Jeff stated that he is concerned regarding the combination of helicopter & jet traffic. Chuck stated that such issues would be addressed by the FAA on the Master Plan update. Curt stated that the FAA's position regarding �#� '�� i �'�.� ��i�:�t��°:> � ��r�<�:i� "`� � i� � �,:.:.�>�. , ,� g �, � • . r f companies that won't allow their jets on a field that has skydivers is that the FAA cannot favor one type of aviation over another, due to an in-house regulation by one company or another. Chuck also stated that Larry Osgood has okayed them to talk with FAA about the new terminal at the upcoming conference. Toothman-Orton plans on putting together a • short power-point presentation for them, to get them up to speed. Jeff Miller voiced concerns that the terminal be fully utilized, and stated that a plan needs to be in place and quickly implemented. Rob Oates explained that when relying on FAA money, it takes time, budget year by budget year. 5• City Council Meeting, April7 7pm — Discussion & possible Vote on Zone Ordinance Rob Oates explained that this meeting concerned the updated Zoning Ordinance for Caldwell, which includes Airport. Curt Hawkins requested that Bob McGee plan to be at that meeting, as he has another Airport meeting requiring his attendance. 6• FAA Airports Conference — Seattle — Apri121-23 — Curt Hawkins attending Curt stated that this conference is the NW Mountain Regional FAA Conference, and that any who would like to go may, but there is no budgeted money for their expenses. 7• IAMA Conference — Sun Valley — May 5&6 — Hawkins, McGee attending Curt Hawkins stated that anyone interested might attend. The Caldwell Airport will pay the conference fee of $85 for Commission members, but members must provide their own room, board, transportation, expenses, etc. g• City Council Workshop — May S 6pm — Funding & Design for New Terminal This workshop was discussed earlier in the meeting. All that can are encouraged to attend. . 9 • By-Laws Copies of old ordinances and by-law documents were distributed. Bob McGee asked the Commissioners to read through these documents and come to the next monthly meeting with suggestions regarding updating the by-laws. Next Airport Commission Meeting: Thursday May 1 2008. The meeting was adj ourned at 12:51 PM. • �� °o�-�� t�� .;I � �-��r��t��,°� � ii¢�b�� ;;;�t�i�� ; �3�°;�