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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-02-2010 TRAFFIC COMMISSION MINUTES � . Caldwell Traffic Commission (TC) Minutes ���,� a�. .�.� � �� � August 02, 2010 10:30 a.m. Present: Brent Orton, Chief Wendelsdorf, Brian Billingsley, Gordon Reed, Chief Allgood Secretary: Tammy Frans Please submit requests for the Traffic Commission to Tammy Frans. Old Business 1. Request for "Directional Signs" for the downtown museum and Senior Center (Bob Sobba) Regarding directional signs to the museum, Chief Allgood is hesitant from the law enforcement perspective. The Commission agreed to table the request pending additional information. Brian Billingsley agreed to meet further with Councilman Sobba on the matter. 5-03-2010 The TC noted that the museum is a private not public facility. The item was continued until Brian could speak with Councilman Sobba. 6-07-2010 Brian asked that Chief Allgood speak with Councilman Sobba about this matter directly 7-12-2010 '� '�� �'� �:�. ���'''�° Meet with Councilman Sobba to discuss further. POST MEETING — Chief Allgood talked to Bob Sobba about signs for the museum at 12th and Main. Bob said they have gone another direction and he does not want us to consider it at this time. 2. Request for School signage change from "When Children Present" to "Between the hours of 7:00 and 4:00 (Chief Allgood) Documents regarding school zone signage and decisions from previous TC meetings were reviewed and discussed. While it is understood a CPD Officer would prefer the "Between the Hours of' signs for reasons of being clearly defensible when ticketing, other points to consider were discussed. Those points being: • It would be expensive to change out all existing signage • Signage was changed out in Oct 2005 when the TC made the recommendation to Council to make school zone signage uniformly "When Children are present" • The TC decision to recommend the uniform change was based on the opinion that "When Children are Present" covers safety at all times ie: before school programs (breakfast), after school events, evening events, summer months, etc. • School times can and do change from year to year. It would be costly to update signage to reflect changes as they occur. 6-7-2010 Brian Billingsley recommended that the discussion be postponed until Chief Allgood could be present to speak on behalf of the CPD. 7-12-2010 Item continued, Chief Allgood not present at July meeting 8-02-2010 Item continued, Brent Orton reviewed remarks, Chief Allgood will review and discuss further at September TC meeting. 3. Request Stop Sign at the intersection of Beech Street & Ohio (Edwin Lyle) Mr. Lyle submitted the above request out of concern for safety due to speeding traffic and semi trucks on the 1800 and 1900 blocks of Beech Street. The prominent concern to the TC is using Stop signs for traffic calming and the MUTCD discourages using Stop signs for speed control. There is currently a Stop sign at the East end of Mr. Lyles section of Beech and another at the intersection of Beech Street and Indiana Ave. 1 block to the West. Adding the requested Stop sign would stop traffic at one block intervals on Beech Street. Indiscriminate use of Stop signs at locations can cause driver confusion and often times fatalities. The Traffic Commission determined that this intersection does not meet current Standards adopted by the City for placement of a Stop sign. A motion was made and the Traffic Commission agreed unanimously to have Chief Allgood review accident history at the above location and to send correspondence to Mr. Lyle to explain the TC's decision. '�' ' `�' '� Review accident history for intersection at Beech & Ohio. R : R POST MEETING — There have been two collisions in the last three years at the intersection of Beech/ Ohio. Mr. Lyle was notified of the Traffic Commission's recommendation last month. 4. Rural Site Triangles (Gordon Reed) 07-05-2010 Gordon Reed reviewed the "Shared Rural Sight Triangle" with the Traffic Commission. Rural site triangles are intended for intersections in the county that experience higher rates of speed. Gordon's recommendation is for City Council to adopt the Rural Site Triangle where there is no curb and gutter and the speed limit exceeds 40 mph. The Street department will be stripping the intersection of Homedale Rd and Lake Avenue using the Rural Sight Triangle. When this is complete Gordon will notify the Traffic Commission so they can perform a site visit before their next meeting. Y `�� ° ' �' �`' Request stripping and notify TC members upon completion. 08-02-2010 TC Members made site visits to review the Rural Site Triangle stripping at the intersection of Homedale Rd and Lake Avenue. The following comments were shared: • When should the Rural Triangle be used and when not. (MW) • Complications and confusion to drivers because they will not be aware of the difference • Suggest expanding from 40' to 50' (BB) • Concern for peoples yards A motion was made and the Traffic Commission agreed unanimously to have Engineering draw out some examples at various intersections for TC to review so they can better consider Street classifications and su�gest speed thresholds. `� t� �` � '" '� Request Engineering draw out some examples at various intersections for TC to review New Business 1. Request by Gary Vance to Vacate R-O-W behind homes on South Indiana (Gordon Reed) Mr. Vance met with Brent to discuss the feasibility of the above vacation. Mr. Vance decided to consider alternatives to the vacation more thoroughly before proceeding with an application. The next Traffic Commission meeting is scheduled for September 06, 2010 at 10:30am.