HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-10-01city council minutesBook 38
SPECIAL MEETING
OCTOBER 1, 1997
12:00 NOON
The Meeting was called to order by the Acting Mayor, Chuck Houchins.
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The Acting Mayor requested that everyone stand for the Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag.
The Roll of the City Council was called with the following members present:
Houchins, Evans, Earl, Busch, Langan, and Wells. Absent: none.
(DISCUSSION REGARDING PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY ALONG THE WEST
BOUNDARY OF SOUTH PALRANG)
Acting Mayor Houchins explained that the Special Meeting was called for the
purpose of discussing the pedestrian pathway along the west boundary of South
Palrang.
A memorandum was prepared for the Members of the City Council by the City
Engineer, Gordon Law, which was as follows:
In the Council Meeting of September 2, 1997, Council considered approval of a
final plat for South Palrang Subdivision. Included in the approval was a
requirement that South Pahang provide a 10 foot wide asphalt pathway along the
westerly edge of the subdivision. The Engineering and Development Services
staffs were directed to prepare the basic standards for the pathway as well as
devise a way to include other subdivisions in the pathway network.
Subsequent to the Council Meeting, the Engineer of record for South Pahang,
forwarded a letter to the Engineering Department containing their
recommendations for the pathway. A copy of the letter is attached. The
Engineering and Development Services Department used the Engineer's letter and
the requirements for a similar pathway in Jefferson Park IV to prepare a list of
recommendations for the South Palrang path. A copy of a letter containing the
City's recommendations is attached.
The Engineering Department also met with the Engineer of record for West
Valley Estates Subdivisions to include them in the pathway system. West
Valley's recommendations suggested the possibility that a pathway in both South
Palrang and West Valley may not be necessary. In addition, the developer of
South Palrang objected to the width of the pathway common lot recommended in
the letter from the City.
The Development Services Director and City Engineer met with Council
President, Chuck Houchins and Councilperson Rita Earl to incorporate the new
information into a reasonable pathway requirement on these subdivisions. In the
meeting, it was concluded by all parties to recommend the following:
I. Locate the pathway in West Valley Estates No. II rather than in South Palrang;
2. Require the developer of South Palrang to participate in the cost of the
pathway by providing sufficient funds to cover 5 feet width of paved pathway;
and
3. Require that all recommendations be returned to Council for consideration and
approval since there are substantial differences from the original Council
requirements.
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As Council considers the issues in this pathway, it might be helpful to address the
following questions:
1. Should the pathway be located in South Palrang Subdivision or West Valley
Subdivision or both?
2. What width of the pathway should be provided? What width of easement or
common lot should be established?
3. Should South Palrang Subdivision share in the cost of a pathway in West
Valley Estates? At what ratio should South Pahang participate in the cost?
4. Who should operate and maintain the pathway?
5. Should the developer construct now or may the construction be deferred to a
later time with the cost of construction deposited with the City?
6. Are there other amenities that belong with this pathway? Fence, bollards, etc?
In the letter from the South Palrang Engineer of record, an issue was raised
concerning the right of access by farmers and irrigation districts to the west edge
of South Palrang Subdivision. This was an issue not raised during any earlier
discussions or previous hearings. It was the feeling of Councilpersons Houchins
and Earl, as well as staff, that this is a significant issue. It was the
recommendation of Councilpersons Houchins and Earl that the developer have
prepared by September 29, 1997, written documentation demonstrating that
access for farmers and the irrigation districts was not an issue or, if it was an
issue, the means of addressing it. Councilperson Houchins also felt the City
Attorney should have a chance to review the developer's documentation on the
matter.
In acting on these issues, the staff requests that Council address them in a way
that staff can apply Council requirements uniformly to all developers.
Mr. Law pointed out to the Members of the City Council that there were three
parts to this memo. There were several letters included in their packet including
Pinnacle Engineering representing Anderson and Pugh and also a response letter
from the City of Caldwell Engineering Department making some
recommendations earlier in this process regarding the pathway required of South
Palrang Subdivision on September 2 ° Subsequent to that approval, the City
Engineering Department and the Community Development Department were
given instructions to work out the details. There was a meeting held between
myself, Linda .lames, Council President Houchins, and Councilperson Marl to try
to determine how to proceed. There were three recommendations out of that
meeting which were contained in the memo to Council which were: I . Locate the
pathway in West Valley Estates No. II rather than in South Palrang; 2. Require
the developer of South Palrang to participate in the cost of the pathway by
providing sufficient funds to cover 5 feet width of paved pathway; and 3. Require
that all recommendations be returned to Council for consideration and approval
since there were substantial differences from the original Council requirements.
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The City Engineer continued stating that in order to keep the discussion
organized, he requested in the memo that they consider the issues in an organized
fashion. There were six points that he asked to be addressed and resolved that
might provide some uniform guidance in dealing with everyone else. One
question not included was whether the criteria should be applied outside of that
northwest quarter of section 1; in other words, be applied to other subdivisions.
Mr. Law pointed out that John Carpenter, Pinnacle Engineers, Inc., was present
representing Anderson and Pugh. There was also supposed to be a representative
from West Valley Estates, but he had not arrived as yet. Since there was some
urgency to this issue, he would like to see this finished up at this time.
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The Members of the City Council discussed this matter at some length. They
reviewed the seven issues presented to them by the City Engineer. During the
course of the discussion, Matt Munger from Hubble Engineers representing West
Valley Estates arrived and took part in the discussion along with Mr. Carpenter.
The Acting Mayor requested that the City Council consider making a decision on
this matter. Councilwoman Earl stated that she would present Findings with
regard to this issue. They were as follows:
• The developer of West Valley Estates has agreed to allow the pathway that
we have been speaking about to become a part of common a lot, Lot 23,
Block 3 of West Valley Estates No. 11;
• South Palrang was willing to share in the cost of the development of this
pathway;
• It was found that a six foot pathway was appropriate with two feet on each
side totaling ten feet;
• The meeting was advertised as required.
Councilwoman Earl's Conclusion was that the meeting was conducted in a proper
manner and met all requirements.
Councilman Evans added the following fact:
• The Homeowner's Association has agreed to have the responsibility of
maintenance.
Councilwoman Earl stated that she believed this fact was a legal question and
something the City Attorney should address. As far as we know the developer
believes that this was going to be free access, but we need him to review this to
make sure.
Mr. Law commented that Council should remember that they were studying
conditions for Palrang and not for West Valley even though part of the discussion
involves them. We do know that Palrang does not have operation and
maintenance responsibility for something located off their site.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Evans that the pathway required of South
Palrang at our September 2, 1997, City Council Meeting, will now fall within Lot
23, Block 3, West Valley Estates, No. II, that the developer of South Palrang
Subdivision share the cost of the construction of that pathway at a rate of fifty
percent, that it would be a ten foot easement with a six foot paved pathway and
whether it was asphalt or concrete was between the developer and the City
Engineer.
Councilman Langan questioned whether they were clear regarding the legal
aspect. Councilwoman Earl stated that she would amend her motion to add that
the City Attorney still look at the issue of access that was brought up in letters
from Mr. Carpenter to be sure that the City does not have any potential problems
with access. Mrs. Carpenter asked that Mr. Law ask for an opinion from the
Attorney.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Busch, Langan, Wells, Houchins, and
Evans. Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
Councilwoman Earl commented that Mr. Law also asked if the conclusion in this
instance should be applied everywhere or just in this particular locality. In her
opinion, she believed that pathways need to be addressed for interconnecting
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neighborhood in a logical manner. She would like to see it addressed. by the
Engineering and Community Development Departments and have it go through
the natural course of public hearing, have the ordinance amended, so solutions
could logically be determined throughout the City as we continue to develop.
The Acting Mayor agreed with her suggestion.
MOVED by Langan, SECONDED by Evans that since there was no farther
business, the meeting be adjourned at 1:05 p.m.
APPROVED AS wri r_er THIS f,th DAY OF 1997.
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