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REGULAR MEETING
JULY 20, 1998
7:00 P.M.
The Meeting was called to order by Mayor Nancolas.
The Invocation was offered by Charles Wigdon, Associate Minister from the first
Christian Church after which the Mayor requested that everyone remain standing
for the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. A member of Scout Troop No. 276 lead
the Pledge.
The Roll of the City Council was called with the following members present:
Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, and Evans. Absent: none.
ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
The Mayor asked if there were any additions or deletions to the prepared Agenda.
It was MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Ozuna that Item No. 5 under New
Business be deleted which was a request for an Executive Session that was no
longer necessary.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, and Evans. Those
voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Evans to accept the Agenda as amended.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, and Evans. Those
voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
SPECIAL PRESENTATION
Mayor Nancolas recognized Boy Scouts from Troop No. 276 and Troop No. 269
who were present in conjunction with their Citizen in the Community Merit
Badge and Communications Merit Badge. He welcomed them to the Council
Meeting and encouraged them to ask questions at any time.
The Mayor noted that there was a large assembly of senior citizens at the meeting
tonight for the special presentation to Dot Blessing, who has been the Director of
the Senior Center for many years. She recently announced that she was going to
retire and spend more time with her husband. Mayor Nancolas further stated that
he wanted to express his personal gratitude for all she has done and for her
friendship. Many people's lives have been changed by her smile, her words of
support and she will be greatly missed. He believed it would be very difficult to
replace Dot. The Mayor then read a Proclamation declaring July 20, 1998, as Dot
Blessing Day and ask the citizens of Caldwell to join with him in wishing her well
for all the service she has contributed to the cori�ununity. In addition, a plaque was
presented to her stating, "To Dot Blessing in Appreciation For Your Love,
Compassion, and Your Dedicated Service to the Seniors of This Community,
presented on this 20 " day of July, 1998, by the Mayor and City C:olnvil of the
City of Caldwell."
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
The Mayor asked if there was anyone in the audience who cared to address the
City Council on any item that was not on the prepared Agenda.
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Leo Holmes was recognized by the Mayor and commented on Pioneer Plaza and
how beautiful it was.
(CONSENT CALENDAR)
Mayor Nancolas presented the following items on the Consent Calendar for
consideration by the City Council:
I . Dispense with the reading of the minutes of the Regular City Council Meeting
of July 6, 1998, and approve as written;
2. Accept the minutes of the Caldwell Golf Board Meeting of June 30, 1998; the
Caldwell Industrial Airport Meeting of July 2, 1998, the Caldwell Traffic
Commission Meeting of July 10, 1998; and the Caldwell Public Library Board
Meeting of June 4, 1998;
3. Approve a Resolution authorizing the execution of a cancellation of an Airport
Tenant Agreement with Max Barker;
4. Approve a Resolution authorizing the execution of a new Airport Tenant
Agreement with John and/or Lyn Siebold;
5. Approve the appointment of Janie Archuleta to the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
6_ Approve awarding the bid for asphalt paving under L.T.D. 98 -3 and L.I.D. 97-
5 to Nampa Paving and Asphalt, the qualified and low bidder for this project.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Evans to approve the Consent Calendar as
presented by the Mayor.
Councilwoman Earl noted that it was nice to see the Caldwell Traffic Commission
Meeting minutes in their packets. It was very informative. Mrs. Earl also
commented on the appointment of Janie Archuleta to the Planning and Zoning
Commission. They have needed another member for some time and she felt that
this appointment was excellent as she was a hard worker and would be an asset to
the Commission.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, and Evans. Those
voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
OLD BUSINESS
(SECOND READING OF BILL NO. 20 TO AMEND THE SUBDIVISION
ORDINANCE, CASE NO. OA-16-98)
Mayor Nancolas announced that this was the time set for the second reading of
Bill No. 20. This Bill was read for the first time during the Regular City Council
Meeting of July 6, 1998. The Bill was read by title only as follows:
AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 11, OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE
OF THE CITY OF CALDWELL, COUNTY OF CANYON, STATE OF IDAHO,
REGARDING CHANGING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
FROM A DECISION- MAKING BODY REGARDING PRELIMINARY PLAT
APPROVAL TO A RECOMMENDING BODY: ARTICLE 2, SECTION II-
02-04 STAGE 2 PRELIMINARY PLAT, SUBSECTION 5A AND 5B BY
ADDING AND DELETING CERTAIN LANGUAGE; AND, SECTION 11 -02-
04, SUBSECTION 6C AND 61) BY ADDING AND DELETING CERTAIN
LANGUAGE: REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS, ORDERS
AND PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH.
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MOVED by Evans, SECONDED by Ozuna that this stand as the second reading
of Bill No. 20.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Evans, Earl, Ozuna, Langan, and Wells. Those
voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
The Mayor stated that the next reading would be at the Regular City Council
Meeting on August 3, 1998.
(FIRST READING OF BILL NO. 19 TO AMEND THE CODE REGARDING
DWELLING UNITS, NON - CONFORMING USES, AND THE LA SID USE
SCHEDULE)
Mayor Nancolas announced that this was the time set for the first reading of Bill
No. 19 which was to amend the Code pertaining to dwelling units, non-
conforming uses, and the land use schedule. The Order of Decision was rendered
at the last public hearing.
AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 10, OF TIIE MUNICIPAL CODE
OF TIIE CITY OF CALDWELL, COUNTY OF CANYON, STATE OF IDAHO,
REGARDING: ARTICLE 3, SECTION 10- 03 -11, DEFINITIONS BY
REDEFINING "DWELLING UNIT" AND AMENDING SECTION 10- 02 -08,
SUBSECTION 12, NONCONFORMING USES, BY ADDING AND
DELETING CERTAIN LANGUAGE IN ORDER TO RE- CLARIFY THIS
SUBSECTION AND AMENDING SECTION 10- 02 -02, TABLE 1, LAND USE
SCHEDULE BY ADDING CHILD CARE CENTER AS A SPECIAL USE TO
R1 AND R2 ZONES, AND BY ADDING GROUP DAY CARE FACILITIES
AS A SPECIAL USE TO RI ZONES: REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES,
RESOLUTIONS, ORDERS, AND PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Langan that this stand as the first reading of
Bill No. 19.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, and Evans. Those
voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
The second reading of this Bill will be held on August 3, 1998, which was the
first Regular City Council Meeting in August.
NEW BUSINESS
(RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MAYOR REGARDING THE
APPOINTMENT OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER)
Mayor Nancolas announced that this was the time to bring to the City Council a
name for appointment to the position of City Councilperson to fill the vacant seat
by the untimely passing of Councilman Chuck Houchins.
The Mayor stated that he would like to comment a moment about the process and
how pleased he was with the way it has gone. It has been a sincere desire to
establish the team work philosophy between the Mayor, Council, Administration,
and citizen's groups and it was working nicely. We felt sincerely that this person
needed to work with the Council as well as with the Mayor. We also felt that
Council should be included in this very important process. Through articles in the
newspaper, we informed the public that the seat would be filled by application.
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Eight applications were received out of which one withdrew and one was not
qualified. The City Council interviewed six candidates and from those six, two
were forwarded to the Mayor with the recommendation that either would be
acceptable to the Council. The Mayor stated that he met with them both and had a
good interview and conversation with both very qualified candidates. it was a
very difficult decision as they were both very qualified, conscientious, and
community minded and had many good aspects. He felt that with Mike Gable,
who has the same philosophy of teamwork, understands the importance of vision
in moving the community forward, was very outspoken, has the ability to
investigate any question in depth to decipher the information and make a rational
decision, was the person for the appointment. In working with him on the Traffic
Commission, he was always there and dependable and informed about those items
to be discussed. Mr. Gable has proven his dedication to the community.
The Mayor then stated that he would present the recommendation to the City
Council that Mike Gable be appointed to fill the remainder of Councilman
Houchins's tenure as a member of the Caldwell City Council.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Evans that the City Council accept the
Mayor's recommendation to appoint Mike Gable to replace Councilman Houchins
until the duration of the term in January 2000.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan Wells, and Evans. Those
voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Nancolas presented the Oath of Office to Mike Gable as Councilperson for
the City of Caldwell.
(ADOPT THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR 1998 -99 AND SET THE PUBLIC
HEARING FOR AUGUST 17, 1998, DURING THE REGULAR COUNCIL
MEETING)
The Mayor asked that the Finance Director, EIJay Waite, present the background
information on the Tentative Budget for 1998 -99.
Mr. Waite reviewed the budget for the City Council stating that the Budget
represents the combined budgets of the Department Heads. The recommendations
from the City Council were still in the budget and will be negotiated and reviewed
over the next few weeks as we take comments from the public. There were no
reductions to the original budgets from the Department Heads and Council
Members will receive copies of all that has been discussed during the hearings as
to reductions. At this time, the Department Heads were reviewing the budget and
were considering Council requests.
There was a brief discussion about the proposed budget with Council presenting
questions to the Finance Director. It was also noted that information and copies
of the Tentative Budget were available at City Hall in the Mayor's Office.
Council commented that the proposed budget was very easy to read and they did
appreciate the work and time that Mr. Waite has spent on this budget.
Councilman Evans further stated that for the record, he wanted people to know of
the expertise that Mr. Waite has brought to the position he was hired for and the
excellent work he has provided. The Council was very pleased and thanked him
for that work.
During the course of the conversation, the City Council also decided that they
would hold a workshop on August 14, 1998, at 6:00 p.m. in City Hall.
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The Tentative Budget presented to the Members of the City Council was as
follows:
General Fund
Caldwell Events Ctr Fund
General Fund Override
Library Fund
Street Fund
Airport Fund
Recreation Fund
Liability Ins Fund
Cemetery Fund
Cemetery Capital Imp Fund
Cemetery Perp Care Fund
Community Development
H.U.D. Fund (Remaining)
Debt Service Fund
Capital Imp Fund
Golf Fund
Water Fund
Sewer Fund
Sanitation Fund
Street Lighting Fund
Employee Health Ins Fund
Employee Dental Ins Fund
FY 97 FY 98 FY 99
Actual Budgeted Proposed
Expenditures Expenditures Expenditures
5,308,475
6,455,508
7,239,654
246,292
290,816
251,777
0
0
0
667,666
708,433
738,758
1,375,737
3,285,692
3,215,512
331,877
447,352
1,746,519
265,370
282,206
285,900
109,145
498,598
251,513
149,888
192,834
196,883
57
50
32,050
30,465
26,300
30,300
98,644
346,000
250,000
33,019
161,828
171,931
385,438
546,569
644,510
254,761
500,046
387,788
644,389
821,426
916,713
1,234,335
2,557,807
2,350,651
1,460,127
8,258,397
12,767,971
1,501,219
1,470,685
1,556,581
128,380
152,924
216,309
513,841
673,632
635,896
_ 76,841
_ 93,000
85,000
TOTAL Expenditures
14,815,966
27,770,103
33,972,21
FY 97
FY 98
FY 99
Actual Non-
Actual Non-
Proposed -non
Property Tax
Property Tax
Property Tax
FUND
Revenue
Revenue
Revenue
General Fund
3,090,620
3,257,977
3,748,588
Caldwell Events Ctr Fund
200,289
204,600
251,600
General Fund Override
0
0
0
Library Fund
365,370
391,579
397,384
Street Fund
1,653,812
2,027,151
1,758,528
Airport Fund
412,149
315,220
1,540,377
Recreation Fund
148,943
139,579
155,206
Liability Ins Fund
27,820
20,000
25,000
Cemetery Fund
132,129
120,349
135,639
Cemetery Capital Imp Fund
11,193
9,000
10,100
Cemetery Perp Care Fund
46,220
44,000
48,000
Community Development
97,282
346,000
250,000
H.U.D. Fund (Remaining)
20,077
9,000
11,500
Debt Service Fund
553,492
543,525
688,626
Capital Imp Fund
63,654
302,680
218,878
Golf Fund
668,100
673,500
745,320
Water Fund
1,488,787
1,373,300
1,474,216
Sewer Fund
2,469,210
8,031,941
9,523,000
Sanitation Fund
1,567,953
1,520,800
1,613,035
Street Lighting Fund
169,294
164,527
174,888
Employee Health Ins Fund
408,523
670,632
632,000
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Employee Dental Ins Fund 78,594 109,540 100
TOTAL Other Revenue 13,673,511 20,274,900 23,502,38
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General Fund
General Fund Override
Library Fund
Street Fund
Airport Fund
Recreation Fund
Liability Ins Fund
Cemetery Fund
Capital Imp Fund
TOTAL Property Tax
Revenue
SUBTOTAL All Revenue
Use of Fund Balance or
Retained Earnings
TOTAL All Revenue
FY 97
FY 98
FY 99
Actual
Budgeted
Proposed
Property Tax
Property Tax
Property Tax
Revenue
Revenue
Revenue
2,863,552
3,033,009
3,280,745
0
0
0
304,945
316,193
341,222
492,627
511,709
553,505
44,927
46,213
49,988
122,807
112,724
121,931
3,186
0
0
47,379
48,719
52,698
172,614
143,598
155,327
4, 052,037
4,212,165
4,555,416
17,725,548 24,487,065 28,057,801
0 3 5,914,415
17,725,548 27,770,103 33,972,216
MOVED by Langan, SECONDED by Evans to adopt the Tentative Budget for
1998 -99 as presented and that a Public Hearing on the budget be held during the
Regular City Council Meeting on August 17, 1998, at 7:00 p.m.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Langan, Wells, Gable, Evans, Earl, and Ozuna.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
(PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED STORMWATER POLICY
ORDINANCE — OA- 17 -98)
Mayor Nancolas stated that the next item under New Business was a Public
Hearing on the proposed Stormwater Policy Ordinance — OA- 17 -98. The Mayor
informed the City Attorney, Mr. Hamilton, that he believed the City Council had
questions with regard to whether to proceed with the Hearing this evening.
Mr. Hamilton, the City Attorney, stated that the best policy since the Public
Hearing was noticed would be to proceed with the Public Hearing at this time. At
the conclusion of the testimony taken tonight, Council could either continue the
Hearing or send the proposal back to Planning and Zoning for reconsideration. At
that time, it would be more appropriate to schedule a workshop and review the
proposal before it was reconsidered by Planning and Zoning. He did believe the
best procedure would be to continue with the Public Hearing and then make a
decision to either send back to the Commission, approve it, or disapprove.
Councilwoman Earl stated that she wanted to clarify their options: We can
proceed with the Public Hearing and either adopt it as recommended or could
make changes at this time. We can deny it and remand back to Planning and
Zoning with the understanding that there will be a joint workshop between
Planning and Zoning, the City Council, and the Staff.
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Mr. Hamilton agreed with the options as stated by Councilwoman Earl.
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Councilman Wells commented that he would like to hear testimony and make the
decision after that. He firrnly felt that there were some issues that Council needs
to discuss. There were some fundamental issues of the policy that they need to go
through and he believed it would be better in a workshop. They needed to
understand the policy that they were being asked to consider adopting.
Mayor Nancolas noted that there was only one person signed to testify and he was
signed to speak in favor of the policy, Mr. Lull Gilbert. No one signed to speak in
opposition. After this comment, the Mayor reviewed the procedure for the Public
Hearing and opened the Public Hearing.
The Community Development Director, Mrs. James, informed Council that she
wanted to present the recommendation from the Planning and Zoning
Commission which was included in their packet. On June 25, 1998, the Planning
and Zoning Commission Members did hear the proposed Ordinance. At that time,
they voted to recommend to the Mayor and the City Council that the Storrnwater
Policy be approved. Under Section 2.3 , Background Information, Council will
note that the Policy was sent to a long list of agencies and I would like to state for
the record that 33 agencies, businesses and political subdivisions were notified of
the draft. In fact, they were sent a copy. Of those agencies, three responded in
writing. Those included Pioneer Irrigation District, Bureau of Reclamation, and
Earl and Associates. Mr. Law did take those comments into consideration and
they were incorporated into the draft before the City Council.
Councilwoman Earl stated that she spoke earlier that day with Mrs. James and
with the City Attorney, Mr. Hamilton. IIer question goes back to the Idaho
Regulatory Takings Guidelines. This was a booklet that all Council should have
received from the Attorney General's Office. It states that there were guidelines
and six questions that have to be asked by Staff as to whether or not taking issues
could possibly come tip. Also states that it was mandatory and it should take
place prior to this going out to agencies and groups. Her question to Mrs. James
was whether this has taken place. Has the Staff done the review on these taking
issues, had the Attorney reviewed it for those issues.
Mrs. James answered that she did not personally review it as to takings. The copy
was sent to our legal cou isel and whether or not they reviewed it as to taking, she
would need to ask theirs.
Mr. Hamilton stated that they did not review this with regard to takings. When it
was received, I talked with Mark Hilly briefly. He had looked at the proposal, but
he did not consider that issue. Mr. Hamilton further said that he, did look at the
Regulatory Taking Statute after he talked with Mrs. Earl. It was his opinion that
this was not a taking as legally defined. It appeared to him that if this low was to
be applied prospectively instead of retroactively, that it would not be a taking
because it was not an involuntary taking of someone's property as widening a
road would be. As reviewing these questions that the Attorney General proposed,
it does appear in several that the answer could be yes and the takings would have
to be considered. He thought there was an economic gain when. someone
proposes a subdivision and they have a choice in that they can accept this
regulation as part of their choice to subdivide or they can choose not to subdivide.
They were not forced to do that. If the City comes along and widens the road, you
have no choice mud would be entitled to compensation.
Councilwoman Earl stated that she believed they were talking about more than
just subdivisions. Specifically, she was going back to where it states that State
Agencies and Local Govermnents were required to use this procedure to evaluate
the impact of proposed administrative or regulatory actions on private property.
IIer question originally was and still stands was whether the City followed the
guidelines of the Attorney General in evaluating this prior to bringing it to Public
Hearing before the Planning and Zoning Commission.
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Mr. Hamilton stated that his office did not render an opinion as to those questions.
The City Engineer stated that this question just read was not addressed by Staff.
Gordon Law, the City Engineer, was recognized and informed Council that this
business to do with the Storm Drainage Policy has been in the works for quite
some time. In fact, back in January a workshop was held on this matter which
was preliminary to the work of preparing the Storm Drainage Policy. In total, we
probably had about seven months involved in writing the Policy and considerable
amount of time in comment. If I understand the discussion earlier this evening, it
appears that Council wishes to have a more detailed explanation under a
workshop format which was an action I assume will take place later.
Mr. Law continued stating that in light of that, he would keep his comments brief
on the Policy outlining it's basic format. There were three principle items as the
present regulatory climate suggests that need to be considered. (1) What size of
storm does the City wish to have to be the criteria under which they were going to
operate their Storm Water Policy; (2) How much water was going to be allowed
off site from a development. Usually, that was a matter of rate, but it could also
include a matter of quantity. In this particular Policy, it only addresses rate; (3)
It has to do with the quality of the water which was discharged off site; what
constituents was it allowed to have or what level of cleanliness was it allowed to
have before discharged off site. What environmental factors enter into the quality
of water which was discharged off site. The three items were the size of the
storm, the rate of water which was allowed to be discharged off site, and the
quality of which that water must exist when it was discharged off site.
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The City Engineer further stated that this Policy, after review and consideration
from a number of inputs, proposed that the basic storm size was twenty -five year,
twenty -four hour duration with exception of one particular type of storm water
facility which has no off site discharge. The basic design philosophy was twenty -
five year•, twenty -four hour and the only exception being for the facility that does
not have an off site discharge, but purposes to retain everything on site. The
second item was the rate which water was discharged off site. It was proposed to
be identical to the delivery rate for irrigation water in this Valley which was one
miners inch to the acre. The reason for that being that most of the drain ditches on
which we depend to convey this water have all been sized, built, constructed,
maintained, operated over the years at a rate to take of return water which was
being delivered at the rate of one miners inch to the acre. With regard to the third
item which was those structures or best management practices which were
included in this Policy for the controlling of pollutants being transported off site
in the storm water, there were only two contemplated in this particular Policy.
One was the construction or installation or use of sand and grease traps for the
separation of floatables and sinkables before the water was discharged. The
second management practice which was included in this Policy was the retaining
of a portion of the stormwater so it does not discharge off site while the remainder
could discharge off site. Those were the only two management practices included
in the Policy. There were a number of other issues. Some could be considered
minor and some could be considered major that were addressed by this Policy.
Mr. Law briefly presented a few of them. One was that this Policy requires that a
developer consider existing up stream drainage rights and down stream irrigation
rights that have historically taken place across their property and that those things
need to be preserved. Another was that all existing systems in place as the date of
adoption of this Policy were grandfathered in which was an usual and typical
clause to be included in policies. There was a so called engineer's rule which
indicates that for small developments that an engineer and his stamp were not
required for the design of the system, but for larger developments, the engineer's
stamp and his assistance were required. Since he was not privy over the last
couple of weeks to the questions that Council may have, he would like to
conclude his remarks on the policy and open it for questions so he could address
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specific concerns.
The Mayor stated that the City needs to create a document that will accommodate
for possible future needs and regulations placed on us by regulatory commissions
that we were all familiar with. The concern was that as more and more ground
was covered up by concrete, pavement, and buildings, the issue would become
more important. We have to take into consider what our needs were, but also the
needs above us and below us in the water system. This document needs to take all
of those items into account and try to plan for the future.
The Mayor and Council discussed the document at some length including the
changes in the near future such as the water duality; the State was working on the
Total Maximum Daily Load Document and stormwater was one of the
components that was included in that Document; changing of the hydrologic
pattern of runoff and the attempt to try to restore the original pattern;
characteristics of the City's runoff was changing; the Engineer's primary issues
which were health, safety and welfare of those he was responsible for; the fact that
you cannot sign out all risk. Councilwoman Earl specifically asked questions
with regard to Legislative Authority in the Impact Area; Jurisdiction and
Ownership and the fact that the City was designated as the operating entity for
public right of way within Corporate City Limits; the Grandfather Clause;
Engineer's Rule; location of storage facilities; Homeowner's Associations and
having future discussion with regard to the Associations; storm drainage from
offsite and whether multi lot development could accept water which the City
Engineer felt should be discussed further, operational responsibility and what
responsibility the City has; erosion and sediment control and Pollution
Prevention Plan for developments for five acres or larger in size. Councilman
Wells also referred to the Engineer's Rule and when an Engineer's certification.
stamp was necessary. There was also some discussion pertaining to whether the
City has any legal right to prevent a development from discharging into one of the
City's drains. The tape of this meeting will be held in the Office of the City Clerk
and available to anyone caring to review it.
The City Engineer, Mr. Law, pointed out that there was an Ordinance with this
Storm Policy. The intent of the Ordinance was to remove from the City Engineer
the sole responsibility for setting storm drainage policy. When the Policy was
adopted, that becomes the Policy for the City. Another item included in that
Ordinance was that it sets up an appeal process if someone was aggrieved by this
Policy particularly in the Engineer's interpretation or implementation of it. There
was also a Resolution adopting the Policy and it was his opinion that the
Ordinance would need to be considered first.
After a short recess, the Mayor recognized Bill Gilbert, who was signed to testify
regarding this issue.
Mr. Gilbert, 21476 East Linden, was the only person signed to testify_ Mr_ Gilbert
stated that the sign up sheets were ambiguous. He was in favor of the Policy, but
also had some concerns. His suggestion was that a third sheet be provided for
those who simply wanted to ask questions or comment. Mr. Gilbert informed the
Mayor and Council that he was basically in favor of a Storm Water Policy. He
would support the Policy if it was not excessive. Several questions were
presented to the City Engineer by Mr. Gilbert.
Mayor Nancolas asked that a motion be presented closing the testimony portion of
the Public Hearing. MOVED by Evans, SECONDED by Wells that the
testimony portion of the Public Hearing be closed.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Evans, Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, and Gable.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
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MOTION CARRIED
The Mayor noted that the evidence exhibits included the Staff Report, the draft
summary of the Stormwater Management Policy, and the sign up sheets.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Evans to accept the evidence as noted by the
Mayor.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, Gable, and Evans.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
Mayor Nancolas informed Council that it would be appropriate at this time to
present the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
Councilwoman Earl presented the following Facts:
• The general facts that were presented to us and the comments made indicate
that there was need for further discussion and study between the Council,
Staff, and Planning and Zoning Commission before this Policy was adopted.
Mayor Nancolas commented that the Conclusion could also be substantiated
based upon this Fact. If the decision of the Council was to decline this particular
document this evening and feels that a Workshop was appropriate, the only
Finding of Fact that was necessary was that there were considerable questions and
concerns raised by the Council that would constitute and necessitate need for
further discussion through a Workshop format. Because of that issue, Council
would have the right to decline approval this evening and your decision of order
would be to decline and recommend setting a Workshop.
• Councilman Wells suggested another Fact stating that the City does need a
Stormwater Policy, was something the City needs, it was something they
needed to fully understand and there were remaining questions in the process
of understanding that were not answered at this Public Hearing and could be
better answered at a later time.
Councilman Langan asked for some clarification as to the meaning of fully
understand. Councilman Wells stated that Mr. Law presented three areas of the
Policy: Amount, rate, and quality. It was a matter of the liability of what the
City was willing to accept. If we look at the Policy, it does not state exactly what
those liabilities were and how it will effect it. Therefore, to fully understand the
document, we have to understand the ramifications or what it means from the
liability point of view, safety, and economic development to the City.
Councilwoman Earl commented that they have talked about the City's role and
the developer's role. She believed that they have to keep in mind that they were
here to look after the general populace of the community and to make sure that
whatever was adopted was going to serve them. There was some areas the
Council really needed to go back and discuss so that when it was finished, they
could say that they have done all they could to make sure that the public was
protected.
Councilman Langan stated that he has been on the Council for over four years and
his experience has been that the current City Engineer's has been here since he
has and he respects his judgment. He intended to ask Mr. Law some questions
during the workshop and the final hearing regarding this, but he had to trust that
what he says was going to be for the betterment of the City of Caldwell.
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MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Ozuna to accept the Findings of Fact as
presented.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, Gable, and Evans.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
The Mayor stated that the Conclusions of Law would simply be that based upon
the Findings of Fact, the City Council has the right to deny this Stormwater Policy
in its present form based upon need for further information.
The City Attorney suggested that they add that public notice requirements were
met and that the hearing was conducted within the guidelines of the Idaho Code
and City Ordinances. Councilman Langan further stated that he would like to
designate a workshop for further study.
The Conclusions of Law were as follows:
• Based upon the Findings of Fact, the City Council has the right to deny this
Stormwater Policy in its present form based upon need for further
information.
• The public notice requirements were met and the hearing was conducted
within the guidelines of the Idaho Code and City Ordinances.
• The Council felt there was a need for further study.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Langan that the Conclusions of Law as
presented be accepted.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, Gable, and Evans.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
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Mayor Nancolas then instructed Council that they would need to present an Order
of Decision at this time.
MOVED by Earl, SECONDED by Evans that based upon the Findings of Fact
and Conclusions of Law adopted by the City Council, that the Council deny the
proposed Stormwater Policy and that it be remanded back to the Planning and
Zoning Commission and a joint workshop be scheduled between Planning and
Zoning Commission, the City Council, and the City Staff which the public would
be invited to attend.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Earl, Ozuna, Langan, Wells, Gable, and Evans.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting! none.
MOTION CARRIED
MOVED by Langan, SECONDED by Ozuna to close the Public Hearing.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Langan, Wells, Gable, Evans, Earl, and Ozuna.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
The Public Hearing was closed by Mayor Nancolas.
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(BILL NO. 21 REGARDING THE STORMWATER POLICY)
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The Mayor noted that based on the Order of Decision approved by the Council
and upon the recommendation of Staff, it would not be appropriate to consider
Bill No. 21 at this time.
Mr. Law, the City Engineer, stated that there were significant issues that he would
like for the Council to take their time in studying and to have recommendations,
ideas, and suggestions in mind before walking into a meeting. His
recommendation was to wait three or four months so this could be done in detail.
Mr. Law further informed Council that he was dealing with several other issues at
this time and felt it was not practical to hurry on the Policy.
After a short discussion, it was agreed that the Mayor would work with Staff to
determine when would be a good time for a workshop. Mr. Law also noted that
some of this Policy was second nature to him, but not necessarily second nature to
everyone else. There were certain aspects of the Policy that the Council would
not be interested in and were implementation type of issues. For his benefit, the
Council needs to understand the nature of their questions so he could understand
and deal with it and put it down verbally. By the same token, he felt his duty was
to try to point out anything that might be inconsistent with other parts of the
Policy or might have financial impact or will effect our ability to operate and
maintain the system or the cost. It would be helpful if everyone was well
prepared for the workshop.
The Mayor also stated that he would be happy to take the time to sit down with
Mr. Law and Mrs. James and try to project an appropriate time frame. As Mr.
Law pointed out, he was dealing with the NPDES permit response to E.P.A. and
that response time was much shorter than anticipated and also the stormwater
treatment construction process has begun as well as several other construction
projects.
(FINANCIAL REPORT)
Councilman Langan reported that the Finance Committee has reviewed current
accounts payable in the amount of $472,118.81 for the period ended July 15,
1998, and a net payroll of $137,239.64 for the pay period ended July 4, 1998.
MOVED by Langan, SECONDED by Evans that accounts payable in the amount
of $472,118.81 represented by check numbers 58702 through 58925 and payroll
for the amount of $137,239.64 represented by check numbers 62212 through
62353 and direct deposit stub numbers 8438 through 8536 be accepted, payment
approved, and vouchers filed in the Office of the City Clerk.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Langan, Wells, Gable, Evans, Earl, and Ozuna.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
(CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS)
Councilman Gable thanked the Mayor and Council for the nice words and
reception. He looked forward to being on the City Council.
Councilman Evans remarked about how nice the mural on the back of the band
shell looked He hoped that it would remain unmolested.
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Councilwoman Earl stated that she would agree with Mr. Gilbert regarding the
sign up sheets. She believed there should be a sheet for those who simply cared to
comment or ask questions. It was agreed that there would be a third sheet.
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Councilwoman Ozuna welcomed Councilman Gable and thanked the Finance
Director for coming to the Golf Board Meeting.
Councilman Langan also welcomed Councilman Gable to the Council and would
be happy to assist him if he had any questions. Iie also expressed that he was
pleased with the appointment of Janie Archuleta to the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
(MAYOR'S COMMENTS)
Mayor Nancolas thanked the Council Members for their participation in the
selection process for the new City Councilperson. He believed the process was
very good. The Mayor also noted his appreciation to the Finance Director for his
work on the budget. It was a good budget which took a lot of time.
Councilman Evans commented that he has been on the Council for two and a hall'
years and this was the easiest budget to read. He also expressed his appreciation
for the Finance Director, Mr. Waite, and in addition, thanked the Mayor for his
input and interest in compiling the budget.
He also reminded the Council of the budget workshop scheduled for August 14,
1998.
(ADJOURNMENT)
MOVED by Langan, SECONDED by Evans that since there was no further
business, the Meeting be adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Roll call vote. Those voting yes: Langan, Wells, Gable, Evans, Earl, and Ozuna.
Those voting no: none. Absent and not voting: none.
MOTION CARRIED
APPROVED AS written THIS 3rd DAY OF August , 1998.
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