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CALDWELL HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
Meeting of March 23, 2022 @ 6:30 P.M.
Caldwell Police Department – Community Room
110 S 5th Avenue, Caldwell, Idaho
I. Call to order. Chairperson Lyons called the meeting to order at approximately 6:30 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Members Present. Randy Lyons, Sue Schaper, Julie Best and Nicole Bradshaw.
Members Absent. Steve Maughan and Renee DeHaas.
Others Present. Jerome Mapp, Planning & Zoning Director; and April Cabello, Planning Technician.
Others Absent. Diana Register, City Council Liaison.
III. Approval of Minutes. Action Item.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 10, 2021.
MOTION Commissioner Schaper SECOND: Commissioner Best, MOTION PASSED.
IV. Certificate of Appropriateness Interviews. Action Item.
Case Number CA-22-01 a request by Mike Kindall for a Certificate of Appropriates to construct a new
single-family dwelling on a vacant lot, parcel # R0126000000. This site is located at 1609 Blaine Street.
April Cabello, Planning Technician, 621 Cleveland Blvd., Caldwell, ID presented the staff report.
Ms. Cabello shared with the commission that the applicant desires to receive a Certificate of Appropriateness
from the Historic Preservation Commission to build a new, approximately 2,735 square foot single-family
dwelling with an attached garage that has a storage area above it and a 1,685 square foot basement. Mike
Kendall and his family will occupy the home. BACKGROUND: The subject property 1609 Blaine Street is
located in the R-1 Zone and exists in the Steunenberg Residential Historic District. The subject property had
the National Register Recommendation Survey in 1999. The 1999 survey documented the subject property
with an estimated construction period of the 1930’s; the style was Vernacular/Period Revival period Cottage.
The condition of the home was listed as burned and non-contributing in a potential district. The home was
demolished after the 1999 survey. The applicant is seeking approval to build a new, approximately 2,735
square foot home on the vacant lot. The applicant will be required to meet all setbacks, Engineering
easements, and Building requirements.
The proposed roofing material will be 30 year architectural style asphalt shingles, all siding will be lap
siding, smart guard 6” pre primed painted, craftsman windows of various design with top grid vinyl clad
milgard and various craftsman style exterior doors with milgard fiberglass insulated core, some with glass.
The proposed facia is smart side trim 7” wide with 2” top trim, trimmed with fitted corbels under soffits.
Proposed columns to be trimmed with smart side soffit pre painted with caps and trimmed with tumbled
reddish brick. Porch to be faced with tumbled reddish color brick.
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The subject property is zoned R-1 (Low Density Residential) and exists in the Steunenberg Residential
Historic District. The surrounding homes are various in size and shape. See exhibit CA-1 for pictures of the
surrounding homes. The surrounding homes are as follows:
1601 Blaine Street is listed as Vernacular/Arts & Crafts Rectangular Bungalow and is contributing.
This property is next to the subject property.
1602 Blaine Street is listed as Altered Arts & Crafts Rectangular Bugalow and is non-contributing.
1604 Blaine Street is listed as Arts & Crafts Rectangular Bungalow and is contributing.
1612 Blaine Street is listed as Craftsman and is non-contributing.
1614 Blaine Street is listed as Altered Rectangular and is non-contributing.
1615 Blaine Street is listed as Vernacular/Arts & Crafts Rectangular Bungalow Period Cottage
transition and is contributing. This property is next to the subject property.
1617 Blaine Street is listed as Vernacular/Minimal Tract Rectangular and is contributing.
1620 Blaine Street is listed as Arts & Crafts Rectangular Bungalow and is contributing.
1623 Blaine Street is listed as Vernacular/Period Revival Rectangular Period Cottage and is
contributing.
Ms. Cabello read the section of code for CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS PROCEDURE: Section
02-17-09(1)A.1 and Sections 02-17-11 and 02-17-11-04 of City Code set forth procedures for granting a
Certificate of Appropriateness. 02-17-09: CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUIRED:
(1) Alterations And/Or New Construction In Local Historic Districts: A. General Rules:
1. After the designation by ordinance of a local historic district, no "exterior feature", as defined within this
article, of any building, site, structure or object, including all appurtenant features, nor aboveground utility
structure nor any type of outdoor advertising sign shall be erected, altered, restored, moved, or demolished
within such local historic district until after an application for a certificate of appropriateness has been
submitted to the planning and zoning department and approved by the commission.
A. That the request is consistent with the Steunenberg Residential Historic District design guidelines. Staff
finds this to be True.
B. That the request is consistent with the Secretary of the Interior's standards for rehabilitation and
guidelines for rehabilitating historic buildings. Staff finds this to be partially True. The proposed home is
taller and larger than the surrounding homes.
C. That the request supports the goals, policies, and recommendations of the City of Caldwell's
Comprehensive Plan and the plans referenced therein. Staff finds this to be True.
D. That based on the adopted design guidelines the request will not be incongruous with the historical,
architectural, archeological, educational, or cultural aspects of the local district. Staff finds this to be True.
E. That the request complies with the dimensional standards and other applicable requirements of chapter
10 of this code including, but not limited to, setbacks, height restrictions and parking requirements, unless
the commission finds that modifying those standards is necessary to protect the overall characteristics of the
local district and to comply with the adopted design guidelines. (Ord. 2905, 9-4-2012) Staff finds this to be
True.
Mike Kindall, Applicant and Representative, 4675 Stamm Lane, Ste B-205, Nampa, Idaho, 83687 signed in
favor of the application and presented his case.
Mr. Kindall stated that he appreciates the commission’s time so he may present the proposal to build the
home at 1609 Blaine Street. He shared some background on himself and his wife; they grew up in the valley
and has family in the area and a son that lives a block east of the parcel at 1609 Blaine Street. They saw the
sale sign on the lot and said to his wife that we need to buy that parcel to build a home that we could retire
in. He shared that he has built 10 different homes. He and his wife like the craftsman style, the whole flavor
of the neighborhood. They actually looked at a couple of homes that were for sale in any area and were very
tempted to make offers on some of them. He stated that he thought he had submitted a photo of a house that
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is very similar to the design that he wanted to achieve. His wife and he intend to enhance the district and
not take away. Mr. Kindall stated they have deep roots with the Steunenberg family. He has a portfolio of
things that he has done in the past and he does a lot of other design consultation. He does not hurry things.
He thought he would appeal to the district's requirements and expectations in any way, shape, or form and
if there were modifications needed that he would be willing to make those but needed to start somewhere.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked about siding and asked if it is going to be one over the top of the
other and if he had built or restored a home in a Historic District.
Mr. Kindall responded that he had not. He had worked in Boise a couple of times on other models and with
their requirements that were in place.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair stated that he liked the detailed plans and specifications submitted with
the application, very thorough in the presentation. He thanked him and stated that he can really appreciate
it. He shared that the commission is stewards of the Steunenberg Residential Historic District to ensure and
maintain that atmosphere and environment. The commission advocates for builders and homeowners like
yourself that come into our Historic Distribute to enhance our district with your attitude and your love for
the district. He and the commission appreciate the detail.
Mr. Kindall responded thank you and that he had tried to find some cross sections. I tried to make it as clear
as possible.
Commissioner Bradshaw thanked the applicant for the detail and asked about the dimensions on the lot. Can
you tell how the dimensions of the home cross the property and that this style was fairly smaller houses and
centered in a lot.
Mr. Kindall stated that he had checked with the City Planning and Zoning Department for setbacks and
designed the floor plan to adhere to the setbacks. If there is a question on the dimensions, he can call his
architect and ask to size the house plans down.
Commissioner Bradshaw stated that she is not talking the setback but space between the neighboring homes
and the subject property, proposed house.
Commissioner Bradshaw asked staff if they have record of the dimensions and heights of the neighboring
homes.
Ms. Cabello responded that she had not found dimensions and height in the Steunenberg Residential Historic
District surveys.
Commissioner Schaper and Commission Bradshaw stated since we do not have any dimensions for the other
houses we could only go by the photographs of the neighboring homes. The proposed home is about six feet
from roofline to the edge of the property on the house. The largest lot is the property to the north and then it
the properties to the south are smaller and the space between the house and the edge of the lot is larger than
six feet.
Mr. Kindall stated that is correct. The style of the home is classy craftsman with white corbels and a good
overhang all the way around to shade the windows. If you can see the photograph, that picture really shows
what could be the finished product. The picture is an advertisement but that is what the house will look like.
Commissioner Bradshaw asked the applicant if it would have the high corbels and gables.
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Mr. Kindall responded no, if you look at the elevations of the front, it is similar.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked Commissioner Bradshaw if her question was about how close the
proposed home will be to existing homes.
Commissioner Bradshaw responded no. How the proposed house dimension looks compared to the other
homes around it. How the proposed home fits in. The question is on spacing and height. The home could
stand out if it is not consistent with the homes around it.
Mr. Kindall responded that he empathized that if he needs to modify, as he had mentioned, at this point that
is something that he can look at. If that is a concern of the Historic Preservation Commission, he can
definitely, do that.
Commissioner Schaper asked if the city received any comments back from the mailings.
Ms. Cabello stated that the hearing notice mailings did go out, and the property was noticed. The city had
not receive any comments from the public.
Commissioner Schaper asked if the top of the garage and side of the garage would be visible from the street.
Mr. Kindall responded not necessarily. If you are standing on the sidewalk, you are not going to see it
because you are going to be down below and wondered if that answered the question.
Commissioner Schaper stated yes, and no. If someone were looking at the top of the first floor from across
the street or driving by. This architecture, typically there is not something behind the house, like a garage.
Mr. Kindall responded from experience you would not see that little ridge peak sticking up. Give him a list
of concerns. He could definitely address them all. He has never run into an issue that he cannot solve. He
thinks of how he can enhance the neighborhood and not stick out like a sore thumb.
Commission Best asked the applicant if he had spent time reviewing the guidelines of the Historic District,
one being no vinyl siding.
Mr. Kindall responded yes, he had spent a lot of time, looking at other properties and has some mixed
feelings about it. His aim is to make the proposed home coincide with the other structures.
Commissioner Best ask if there would be any additional structures besides the primary residence or anything
else like a fence.
Mr. Kindall responded a fence eventually but it would be something classic, it would be something that he
manufacture himself.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked if the proposed windows are partial vinyl.
Mr. Kindall responded that there is every style under the sun; it used to be vinyl clad. We have certain things
to choose from to make them authentic.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair stated that he did some investigation on the proposed siding. Back in the
90s, it deteriorated. The industry has really changed the specifications, equitation, and material.
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Mr. Kindall stated he could get HardiePlank siding that looks exactly like four to six inch lap siding that
looks like the style from 100 years ago and has a lifetime guarantee. The soffit material is smart side and
comes in four by eight sheets of sheets, and is oriented strand board with wood grain on the surface. It has a
primed impregnated primer on it and guaranteed for life once you paint it with a good exterior paint.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked what he would do for the sidewalk/walkway coming from the
sidewalk up to the house.
Mr. Kindall responded that he would like to have nice pavers that match the tumbled brick. It does not crack
like the sidewalk.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked about the five or so trees in various locations on the property.
Mr. Kindall responded that there is a mole and the Chinese Elm and Evergreen will have to go.
Ms. Cabello stated for the record any tree that is located in the right of way; if the applicant wanted to remove
a tree, they would need a permit from the Parks Department.
Commissioner Bradshaw stated that the dormers on the roof are a little bit different from some of the
architecture that is around and that other houses are simple. She asked if the dormers are for looks.
Mr. Kindall state yes and this is classy craftsman. The elevations on the plans are computer generated and
are not astatically pleasing on the drawings. He stated he would submit a rendering that shows the plans and
gives a good idea of what the house would look like.
Ms. Cabello stated that 1612 Blaine has something like a dormer and wanted to point that out.
Mr. Kindall found the rendering on his phone.
Ms. Cabello stated that staff would hand the phone the commissioners to see the rendering.
Ms. Cabello asked Mr. Kindall to email the rendering so she can add it as an exhibit.
Commissioner Bradshaw asked if this is a rendering of the plans.
Mr. Kindall responded yes.
Ms. Bradshaw stated that the rendering is showing the garage on the left side.
Mr. Kindall stated that he redesign the garage to the right, and he does not like seeing garage doors from the
front elevation.
Ms. Bradshaw stated that the rendering looks very different from what she see in the submitted plans. The
rendering has one dormer and the plans have two. It is attractive, but it looks a little bit different from the
plans.
Mr. Kindall responded that the submitted plans are based from the rendering.
Commissioner Schaper asked to clarify when the commission is trying to write the conditions for your future
home, shall the commission be looking at the rendering and mentally adjusting for elevation or should we
be looking at the submitted elevations.
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Mr. Kindall responded the rendering would translate into the elevations submitted. The home will have two
dormers and not one like the rendering and the garage will be at the back of the house. No driveway in the
front.
Commissioner Schaper stated looking at this image, the garage looks to be on the right hand side, the
windows expand further, and the image does not have windows on the left.
Mr. Kindall responded that the porch section, the two gables, would be out from the front elevation or surface
of the house.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair opened the recommendation discussion for the commission.
Commissioner Bradshaw stated that she would like to see some more comparisons of the height of the
proposed house in comparison to the heights of the adjacent homes. The roofs of the adjacent homes are
fairly lower pitch. Her concern was that the proposed home sticks out in the neighborhood. She would like
to have some better idea about the comparison of the height compared to surrounding home heights and size.
The adjacent homes are small.
Commissioner Bradshaw stated she would like to see samples of the materials and not the brochures.
Commissioner Schaper explained that the proposed home is attractive and very appealing. The proposed
home uses so many complex craftsman features, and many the other surrounding homes based on the
photographs are simple. The proposed home is more elaborate than many of the other homes. Coupled with
its size, both the height and the fact that the proposed home would take up most of lot, potentially make it
markedly different from the other homes. Her interest would be the assurance that the garage will not be
visible from any place you stand or drive by from the street and the possibility of it not being quite as wide
as it is. She wondered if there is a way the proposed home could be a little bit smaller.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair explained that the commission would like to see samples of the siding,
and samples of all proposed materials for the proposed home.
Commissioner Schaper asked the commission members if it would be possible to ask for a modification to
the spacing and more in keeping with spacing. The guidelines on page twenty-three of the district design
guidelines state that it is generally appropriate to add a new building on a site that is similar in height and
width to buildings on adjacent sites and blocks. It is generally not appropriate to add a new building to a site,
which does not maintain or blend with the heights of buildings on adjacent sites. It is generally not
appropriate to add a new building to a site, which does not maintain or suggest the width of buildings on
adjacent sites.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked staff, how to go about looking into the heights other surrounding
homes in the neighborhood.
Jerome Mapp, Planning & Zoning Director stated that he would ask the Engineering Department go out and
survey the two properties on each side of the subject parcel.
Ms. Cabello stated that the height of the proposed home is 20’ to the peak.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked the commission if they agree to table the application until more
information is provided.
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The commission verbally agreed.
Commissioner Bradshaw stated based on the commission’s request, the applicant is to bring back plans with
revised height, elevations, dimensions and examples/samples of all key elements/materials.
Mr. Mapp stated that he had noted the commission concerns being the garage and residential elevation from
the street, is the garage visible from the street, the proposed residence may be too wide, and the commission
needs to see samples of the materials.
Commissioner Bradshaw made a motion to bring the application back to the commission on April 27, 2022.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair asked the applicant if they had enough time to get together the material
information requested by the next meeting on April 27, 2022.
Mr. Kindall responded absolutely.
Commissioner Lyons, Vice-Chair stated that case number CA-22-01 for new construction at 1609 Blaine
Street be continued until April 27, 2022.
Commissioner Bradshaw made the motion to continue the application CA-22-01 to April 27, 2022.
MOTION: Commissioner Bradshaw SECOND: Commissioner Schaper
PASSED: unanimous voice vote
V. OLD BUSINESS: Discussion Item. None.
VI. NEW BUSINESS:
Action Item:
Vote Chair and Vice-Chair for 2022
Commissioner Bradshaw made the motion to appoint Randy Lyons as Chair.
MOTION: Commissioner Bradshaw SECOND: Commissioner Best
PASSED: unanimous voice vote
Commissioner Best made the motion to appoint Nicole Bradshaw as Vice-Chair.
MOTION: Commissioner Best SECOND: Commissioner Schaper
PASSED: unanimous voice vote
Discussion Items: Commission & Staff Reports.
Ms. Cabello informed the commission of the 2022 Annual Update Report to City Council
is October 17, 2022.
Set goals / 5-year plan – continued to the next meeting.
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Mr. Mapp shared that there is new construction going on downtown. It is retail shops with
apartments above and a Hotel site. Caldwell Creek Side is the name of the development on
the site of the Saratoga Hotel that burned down. Mr. Mapp spoke with the architect to do
something celebrating the Saratoga Hotel. The architect suggest a sign on the building and
Mr. Mapp suggested some kind of an interior mural.
Ms. Cabello shared with the commission that a door to door peddler was going around the
Steunenberg Historic District, trying to sell Solar panels. She wanted to share with the
commission that solar panels, if mounted in the rear of the property not visible from the
street, do not require Certificate of Appropriateness. If the home owner wants to install
solar panels in the front the applicant would have to come before the commission for
review.
VII. Meeting adjourned at approximately 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by April Cabello,
MINUTES APPROVED AND SIGNED BELOW BY CHAIRPERSON LYONS ON THE DATE NOTED
BELOW.
Chairperson Lyons Date
ATTEST: Jerome Mapp, Planning Director Date
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